[Official] Political Science Optional | IAS Mains | Daily Initiative

 Kunal Aggarwal
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  •  anurags anurags @anurags

    Those who have PSIR as optional can visit this answer writing blog. Its a daily initiative with questions and topics also mentioned. So u can prepare and practice accordingly. Kindly visit, i have a plan to finish it by November.

    https://psir4upsc.blogspot.com

  •  Rajat Sharma @rajatsharma1704

    someone please review my answers…

  •  Rajat Sharma @rajatsharma1704

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      Q.2 Discuss Hannah arendt theory of power?

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      Q.1 Discuss marxist theory of democracy?

    •  Rajat Sharma @rajatsharma1704

      It is wrongly attached really sorry..

  •  sandeep Tripathi @sandeep-tripathi

    Hey Kunal y questions are not uploaded now a days

  •  Kunal Aggarwal @kunalaggarwal

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    Question 2: Short note on Aristotle on Women and family!

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    Aristotle – Short note on Slavery

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    •  Scorp @msm-s

      Good structure and nyc answer.

    •  Ben Stark @benzen-stark

      Thank u for review..please tell where can i improve? I ‘l be submitting more answers.suggest improvement if possible.

    •  Kunal Aggarwal @kunalaggarwal

      A good attempt @benzen-stark! However I felt you could have added few more things:
      – his acceptance of family as an institution important for men
      – his acceptance of property to satisfy one’s economic needs

  •  Kunal Aggarwal @kunalaggarwal

    Here we go for the day! 🙂

    Write short notes (100 – 150 words words) on Aristotle’s views on
    1. Slavery
    2. Wife and Family

  •  alice singh @alicesingh1

    One page is not being uploaded..?

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    •  Jitin Sharma @jitinsharma

      Hi @alicesingh1 .. content is good n relevant..but answer could hv bn framed better.

    •  alice singh @alicesingh1

      Okay ,@ jitin I will take care of it next time. Thanks for your review

    •  Scorp @msm-s

      gud points. a complete answer..nyc

    •  Kunal Aggarwal @kunalaggarwal

      Overall a good attempt. I don’t think Aristotle said men is “rational animal”. He said “social animal”

  •  Akansha Singh @singh3akansha3

    is n d arora political science book good for paper 1 section b ? or b l fadia is the only option?

    •  Kunal Aggarwal @kunalaggarwal

      I have heard B L Fadia as the recommended book for section b.

    •  Akansha Singh @singh3akansha3

      thank you

  •  Scorp @msm-s

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      Good understanding of the topic n nice structure.

    •  Scorp @msm-s

      THNK U..

    •  alice singh @alicesingh1

      @scorp
      Nice answer
      Secondly you have got a very good handwriting

    •  Scorp @msm-s

      thank you:)

    •  Kunal Aggarwal @kunalaggarwal

      Good points @msm-s and thanks for the review 🙂

      additions that can be done:
      – discuss the importance put on family and even property in state
      – Use of words like “self sufficiency”, “procreative functions” will enrich the answer

    •  Scorp @msm-s

      thanks fr reviewing…wil definitly keep ur suggestions in mind

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    Aristotle on human nature and polis!

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    •  Scorp @msm-s

      gud presentation and nyc points..pls review mine

  •  Kunal Aggarwal @kunalaggarwal

    Question for the day: (Aristotle)

    The idea of Polis is central to Aristotle’s interpretation of man as a political animal. Comment. (200 words)

    •  Jitin Sharma @jitinsharma

      Aristotle, one of the most original thinkers , advocated natural theory state. He believed in natural existence of state. For him state is the necessity of man, as no man is self sufficient in himself. Therefore, man is social n interacts with others to fulfill his needs. Further Aristotles conception of man’s interaction to fulfill his needs takes place at three levels ie family, village n state. N it is at this level of state or polis, a political community of men, that he able to fulfill his needs of highest order, ie his aspirations n use his wisdom. This is where man is different from all animals which r mostly social. Therefore his concept of man is a social animal revolves around the idea of polis.
      This idea of his has been one of the most used in political science. Contemporary concept of state in a democracy is completely centred around the concept that man is a political animal n it makes him part of politics through elections and more so with the instruments of direct democracy. Therefore, man is involved in the political decision making either directly or indirectly.

    •  Scorp @msm-s

      nyc answer…pls review mine.

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    Marx classification

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  •  Jitin Sharma @jitinsharma

    Hi all, as we know not much time left in the exam. So lets move ahead, at least at some pace, to complement each other and make at least one contribution everyday to this thread. I guess we should move ahead of Ancient greek thinkers and seek grey and dark areas. Anybody having test series or coaching may post some challenging questions to get it going. Plz.

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  •  Kunal Aggarwal @kunalaggarwal

    Questions for the day (Let’s repeat because none of us have answered):
    1. Discuss how Plato’s scheme of education are highly influenced by his conception of Justice.
    2. Write a short note on Plato’s community of wives and property.

  •  Kunal Aggarwal @kunalaggarwal

    We will continue with Plato for tomorrow. Monday onwards should we start with Aristotle? @ayushisingh1393 @sandeep-tripathi @jitinsharma @alicesingh1 @monisha-s @kritajna @srivenr

    Questions for the day:
    1. Discuss how Plato’s scheme of education are highly influenced by his conception of Justice.
    2. Write a short note on Plato’s community of wives and property.

    •  MsM @monisha-s

      Yup nyc…

    •  Kritajnamay Biswas @kritajna

      sure

  •  sandeep Tripathi @sandeep-tripathi

    I too would like to join group…

  •  sandeep Tripathi @sandeep-tripathi

    Hi kunal… Nice initiative
    Let’s start

  •  Wahid Iqbal @wahidiqbal7

    May anybody tell me names of books which i hv to read to prepare ? I m from J&K.

    •  Kunal Aggarwal @kunalaggarwal

      For political thoughts, I have been recommended book by Sushila Ramaswamy by a teacher. I read Plato from that and I think it was good.

    •  Kunal Aggarwal @kunalaggarwal

      For political thoughts, I have been recommended book by Sushila Ramaswamy by a teacher. I read Plato from that and I think it was good.

    •  Wahid Iqbal @wahidiqbal7

      Thanks sir

    •  Jitin Sharma @jitinsharma

      First understand theory part, v imp. :: Books OP Gauba and IGNOU Books
      and keeps a watch over international happenings…

    •  Wahid Iqbal @wahidiqbal7

      Ok sir. Thanks

  •  Jitin Sharma @jitinsharma

    justice, for plato is virtue. Justice as mentioned in his Republic is moral in the sense like ethics that it is far from the legal constitutional sense of justice as well as rights of the individuals. His just state is one which protects the weaker from the strngest unlike sophists, for whom justice is the will of the strongest.
    His just state is more like the modern gandhian conception of state which advocates people to perform their duties rather than fighting for their rights, as when everyone starts doing their duties honestly, justice will automatically be there. Barker says, just state for plato is, when a farmers produces more (economic justice), soldier provides protection and kings or philosopher kings do the politics wisely for everyone welfare.

  •  Kunal Aggarwal @kunalaggarwal

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    •  Jitin Sharma @jitinsharma

      @kunalaggarwal all is good. u cn mention karl popper’s criticism in this regard i believe. His advocacy of closed society is undemocratic.

  •  AKSHAY BANSODE @akshaykurtcobain

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      @akshaykurtcobain good answer and nice content. HOWEVER, i feel more explanation of concept of philosopher king or the rule of the wisest seems more relevant to the question. Also democracy not good, distorted form is anarchy, common people not capable like learned philosophers. U cn also mention eg like his division of society into three classes. everyone should perform its function. His modern interpretations in totalitarian regimes can be mentioned as the conclusion.

    •  AKSHAY BANSODE @akshaykurtcobain

      Thanks friend for review!
      Was busy so was not able to reply before.
      And I agree with most of ur point and it’s good…will add it to my notes.

  •  Kunal Aggarwal @kunalaggarwal

    Let’s start with Plato (may be for 2 days) and go in order from here onwards. 🙂

    1. Explain the conception of Justice in Plato’s republic.
    2. Plato was an anti-democrat and supporter of aristocracy. Explain.

  •  Jitin Sharma @jitinsharma

    2. Locke is an individualist in and out.
    Locke is considered to be the father of liberalism, which revolves around the individuals. Unlike, Hobbes, being a witness to the realtively peaceful times of England, he considers man to social in nature. For him, individual is born in the state of nature with some natural rights and for the preservation of theses natural rights and protecting it from getting in conflict with others’ natural rights, he brings up a police state. His theory of state is the result of a social contact among individuals which takes over several rights of the individuals except natural rights available in the state of nature. Apart from life and liberty, he considers the individual’s right to an unclaimed property where he has put in his labor, as natural rights. Therefore, he starts as well as ends as an individualist. His state comes into being only as the protector state with limited powers, which the individuals can take back if their natural rights are voiolated.

    •  Kunal Aggarwal @kunalaggarwal

      @jitinsharma

      Though I am myself not very well versed. You could have used pointed out
      – separation of society and state
      – free and equal man

      I have heard that using technical terms (inalienability and inviolability of natural rights) fetch better marks.

    •  Jitin Sharma @jitinsharma

      @kunalaggarwal use of technical words sounds right.. bt i dont know many.. thnx

  •  Jitin Sharma @jitinsharma

    1. Hobbes is the greatest of all individualists.
    Hobbes was the first liberal thinker who starts with the Individual as the center and his thoughts, inspired by the civil war revolves around nature of individuals that for him is anarchic. For him all individuals are almost equal in strength and are always in the state of war, capable of killing each other. Therefore his origin of state lies its origin in the mechanistic theory, where individuals surrender their natural rights as they had in the state of nature to the state. The state, a soveriegn, for him, is borne out of the social contract among individuals and his all powerful to prevent individuals from harming each others. Therefore, he starts as an individualist but progresses toward an absolute state.
    However, he considers the self preservation as the ultimate liberty of an individual for which he brought up leviathan into existence and empowers individuals to destroy leviathan if that very self preservation is threatened. Therefore, he is considered the greatest individualist.

  •  alice singh @alicesingh1

    Hi I would like to join the group

  •  Kritajnamay Biswas @kritajna

    Hi I am in. We should start with thinkers, One thinker per two/three days should be okay.

  •  Appandairaj Ananthakumar @appandai26cs

    PSIR optional here

  •  Root @root

    Thanks for the lead on this @kunalaggarwal and @ers | We are making this thread official now. Users can chip in daily with answers & reviews on the topics mentioned by you guys.

  •  MsM @monisha-s

    Hi everyone..even i wuld like to join the group

  •  Kunal Aggarwal @kunalaggarwal

    @ers @ayushisingh1393 @srivenr @nancydrew We should go in order and decide on one thinker per day.
    1. Plato
    2. Aristotle
    3. Machiavelli
    4. Hobbes
    5. Locke
    6. Mill
    7. Marx
    8. Gramsci
    9. Hannah Arendt

    Should we have more like Mao, Bentham? or restrict only to clearly ones mentioned in syllabus?

    •  Jitin Sharma @jitinsharma

      Hii, kunal. these are enough as their criticism, support, comparisons etc will automatically require other thinkers eg bentham while doing mills.
      So we can contribute different dimensions of these thinkers.
      Lets say, start with Plato or Aristotle n know about their critiques today or their relevance in the theories of modern thinkers eg Hannah Arnedts’ civic republicanism (Aristotle). ?????

  •  Kunal Aggarwal @kunalaggarwal

    1. Hobbes is the greatest of all individualists.
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    – Hobbes was a radical individualist who proposed the mechanistic conception of nature for the first time
    – He put individual’s natural rights at the centre to analyse state of nature
    – He proposed that man has natural right to enjoy, to use his power for the preservation of his own self and consequently do anything in his own judgement.
    – Based on these natural rights and state of war in nature, he proposed a state model to attain peace. This peace was proposed by people to help themselves.
    – Man could achieve peace even through war which is an extreme form of individual right
    – Even in the civil society, no man can surrender the right to self preservation according to Hobbes.

    2. Locke is an individualist in and out
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    – Locke believed in a peaceful state of nature where man live in harmony. However to control certain unsocial people, they enter into a contract to form a state.
    – Natural rights proposed by Locke included Right to life, liberty and property.
    – These rights are inalienable and inviolable
    – Locked treated all men free and equal and judge of his own actions
    – He went to the extreme of saying that nobody has a right to destroy himself or any other man
    – He separated society and state. Society is pre-condition to state. This means people and their organisation is supreme.
    – According to Locke, property of an individual can not be taken without consent.
    – He proclaimed etilmate sovereignty of people and justified the overthrow of government by people if rights are violated.

  •  MsM @monisha-s

    Hi everyone..even i wuld like to join the group @kunalaggarwal count me in and when r v gonna start

  •  Er S @ers

    Lets stop discussing and start.
    Paper 1 Section 1 > Political Thinkers.
    Difficulty : High
    1. Hobbes is the greatest of all individualists.
    2. Locke is an individualist out and out.
    -> both previous year questions. Lets see how people knit the concept of individualism with these scholars.

  •  Nabal Kumar @nabalkumar1993

    Hi
    PSIR is my optional. have no more idea.
    Yes!! starts the initiative…..

  •  Aishwarya Pankaj @aishwaryapankaj

    Hi I am from PSIR optional. Would love to contribute to group if we create one.

  •  Naresh Krishna @puttapartinaresh

    Hi! guys,iam from PSIR with no experience of mains,but will try to discuss effectively and efficiently..PLZ add me…

  •  Jitin Sharma @jitinsharma

    K,,writing mains fr 1st time… working.
    lets come up with a plan…
    Anyone wants to take initiative??
    I think we can start with Indian thinkers and their unique thoughts. Or Hannah Arendt??

  •  Nathan Kondala @srivenr

    Hi ,

    I am from PSIR, Working professional. I actually teach IR for PSIR Optional students. I have written mains in 2015,, missed the cutoff in the margins

    •  Kunal Aggarwal @kunalaggarwal

      @srivenr How do you suggest we go ahead? Paper 1 section 1? Political thinkers?

    •  Nathan Kondala @srivenr

      Lets start with the Static syllabus. The Thinkers and that too Western political thinkers. In a day or two let me come up with the time schedule and then we can work around it. What say ??

    •  Nancy Drew @nancydrew

      Yes, lets start with the western political thinkers. How about having week-wise plans starting Nov 1?

    •  Nathan Kondala @srivenr

      Done

  •  Nancy Drew @nancydrew

    Hi people. PSIR optional. Work full-time with a think tank, so I am sufficiently equipped with the IR part as my job requires me to be well-versed with the current happenings. WOuld be more than happy to help you all (and myself) with the paper. I am almost done with the first reading for Paper 1. Would like to contribute to any such group as has been proposed here.

  •  McLovin @mclovin-mclovin

    My optional is also PSIR. No mains experience. I have not completed the syllabus but will try to contribute whenever I can.

  •  Ayushi @ayushisingh1393

    @kunalaggarwal Count me in.
    Are we going to start with paper 1 section A i.e political theory?
    Willing to post past year questions on a set time daily but we need a time table first.

    •  Kunal Aggarwal @kunalaggarwal

      @ayushisingh1393

      I have never appeared for mains and I think we need someone who has appeared atleast once. Have you?

      I know basics and can help prepare a timetable. Paper 1 section A is what needs most time also I think 😀

    •  Jitin Sharma @jitinsharma

      Guys how about Whatsapp group?? Me:9990002168.

    •  Amol Ghatole @amolghatole

      Hi I also have a psir optional I can also contribute

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